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If I want to add outdoor speakers to my indoor audio system what is the best
choice for speakers? Do I have to give up quality and use outdoor units or
do hifi speakers come with "weatherproofing" kits?

Many thanks.
 
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"Andrew Chalk" <achalk@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> writes:

> If I want to add outdoor speakers to my indoor audio system what is the best
> choice for speakers? Do I have to give up quality and use outdoor units or
> do hifi speakers come with "weatherproofing" kits?

I don't have a specific recommendation but mcmelectronics.com has a
printed catalog that has a LOT of choices in it for outdoor speakers
in enclosures. Some that look like they've been quite thoughfully
designed.


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In article <SkJFd.17579$iC4.3850@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
Andrew Chalk <achalk@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote:
>If I want to add outdoor speakers to my indoor audio system what is the best
>choice for speakers? Do I have to give up quality and use outdoor units or
>do hifi speakers come with "weatherproofing" kits?

Look at the Tannoy i5AW speakers. They are reasonably well weatherproofed
and sound okay. They are available with 70V kits, which I strongly recommend
if you have a long cable run.
--scott

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:07:46 GMT, "Andrew Chalk"
<achalk@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote:

>If I want to add outdoor speakers to my indoor audio system what is the best
>choice for speakers? Do I have to give up quality and use outdoor units or
>do hifi speakers come with "weatherproofing" kits?
>
>Many thanks.
>
the only real weather proff speakers, not weather resistant, are the
bose 151's. they're pretty decent speakers for the price. i believe
around $250 unless they've come down lately. you find them the same
price where ever you shop for bose. try circuit city or best buys.
charles monster cable dollar
 
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:32:52 -0600, charles e dollar <kidego@earthlink.net> wrote:
>the only real weather proff speakers, not weather resistant, are the
>bose 151's. they're pretty decent speakers for the price. i believe
>around $250 unless they've come down lately. you find them the same
>price where ever you shop for bose. try circuit city or best buys.
>charles monster cable dollar

oh yuk. You have a really really minimal idea of "decent". A $20 pair of
speakers from the flea market wrapped in garbage bags will blow away the bose.
 
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>
> I think if ive put a pair of bose 151 in a fish tank filled with water
> for 2 years and they still played perfectly afterwards. as for as the
> sound, if you noticed what i wrote, i said for the money. but water
> proff they are becasue ive been in the audio/video business for 23 yrs
> and did the experiment myself. so i know what the hell im talking
> about, how about you. did you try this? dont speak unless you have
> done it yourself. you are wrong!
> forget weather resistant, they're water proff.
> charles monster cable $

I wished I'd saved the 12 rotted ones I pulled from a patio at a local
fern bar
2 years outside and they were trashed
NOT WEATHERPROOF in anyway
George
 
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George Gleason wrote:
>
>>
>> I think if ive put a pair of bose 151 in a fish tank filled with water
>> for 2 years and they still played perfectly afterwards. as for as the
>> sound, if you noticed what i wrote, i said for the money. but water
>> proff they are becasue ive been in the audio/video business for 23 yrs
>> and did the experiment myself. so i know what the hell im talking
>> about, how about you. did you try this? dont speak unless you have
>> done it yourself. you are wrong! forget weather resistant, they're
>> water proff.
>> charles monster cable $
>
>
> I wished I'd saved the 12 rotted ones I pulled from a patio at a local
> fern bar
> 2 years outside and they were trashed
> NOT WEATHERPROOF in anyway
> George

Been In av since 1976
currently a prime DMX affiliate
Jobs include installing OUTDOOR speakers for alethic feilds in upstate ny
and had one of my(outdoor) designs live through a CAT 5 hurricane(no
speaker fails even though the 30 foot tall concrete posts the speakers
were on were destroyed) in punta Gorda Florida this year

and did it as a hobby for a decade before that

I installed Bose at the 1980 olympics
had to run signal to them 24/7 to keep them working outdoors
I will put my experiance against yours anyday
George
 
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George Gleason wrote:
> George Gleason wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> I think if ive put a pair of bose 151 in a fish tank filled with water
>>> for 2 years and they still played perfectly afterwards. as for as the
>>> sound, if you noticed what i wrote, i said for the money. but water
>>> proff they are becasue ive been in the audio/video business for 23 yrs
>>> and did the experiment myself. so i know what the hell im talking
>>> about, how about you. did you try this? dont speak unless you have
>>> done it yourself. you are wrong! forget weather resistant, they're
>>> water proff.
>>> charles monster cable $
>>
>>
>>
>> I wished I'd saved the 12 rotted ones I pulled from a patio at a local
>> fern bar
>> 2 years outside and they were trashed
>> NOT WEATHERPROOF in anyway
>> George
>


Oh and BTW
waterproof IS NOT weatherproof
George
 
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> I will put my experiance against yours anyday

How about dueling spell checkers?
 
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Thanks to Todd, Scott, William and Bill. Your suggestions pointed me in the
right direction. I'm trying to choose now. I think the discussion got a
little off-topic at some point.

- Andrew

"Andrew Chalk" <achalk@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
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> If I want to add outdoor speakers to my indoor audio system what is the
best
> choice for speakers? Do I have to give up quality and use outdoor units or
> do hifi speakers come with "weatherproofing" kits?
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
 
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In article <9fpHd.3499$2e7.1761@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
achalk@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com says...
> Thanks to Todd, Scott, William and Bill. Your suggestions pointed me in the
> right direction. I'm trying to choose now. I think the discussion got a
> little off-topic at some point.
>
> - Andrew

Andrew,

I'd be interested in how your search goes, because I'll likely be doing
the same thing this summer - I'd really like to set up some weatherproof
speakers on my deck...

Cheers,

Bill
 
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"Andrew Chalk" <achalk@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
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> If I want to add outdoor speakers to my indoor audio system what is the
> best choice for speakers? Do I have to give up quality and use outdoor
> units or do hifi speakers come with "weatherproofing" kits?
>
> Many thanks.
>

Beings that this is a tech group I might add...... Build them! There are
many great poly/rubber drivers out there and a good mylar tweet can last
quite some time.

You WILL have to replace drivers, don't blow all your money there. Instead
spend it on fiberglassing the enclosure and building good driver protection.
Many pro speakers use what some call "rain screen" in front of UV resistant
foam. This will keep the drivers dry for the most part, not going to work
in gale force driving rain front on!

I plan an outdoor homebrew project soon, May post back.

As for quality, well, they are outside, your noise floor is up, and they
will probably be mounted in a less than ideal configuration. If you want to
enjoy superb audio, forget it, go inside :) But you can build something
with good spectral balance for a decent price. Price will go up if you
decide to go 70V due to the price of high quality transformers and an amp to
drive them, I'd go with a commercial 70V amp (Crown/QSC) if you have a long
run. Less than 50/75 ft then low impedance should be fine.

Chad
 
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I'll post back here. It will be about three months.

- Andrew

"Bill Riel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> In article <9fpHd.3499$2e7.1761@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
> achalk@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com says...
> > Thanks to Todd, Scott, William and Bill. Your suggestions pointed me in
the
> > right direction. I'm trying to choose now. I think the discussion got a
> > little off-topic at some point.
> >
> > - Andrew
>
> Andrew,
>
> I'd be interested in how your search goes, because I'll likely be doing
> the same thing this summer - I'd really like to set up some weatherproof
> speakers on my deck...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
 
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When it comes to building, I can't compete with the pros! So I shall buy.
Appreciate the bounds on low-impedance distance.

- Andrew

"Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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>
> "Andrew Chalk" <achalk@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
> news:SkJFd.17579$iC4.3850@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> > If I want to add outdoor speakers to my indoor audio system what is the
> > best choice for speakers? Do I have to give up quality and use outdoor
> > units or do hifi speakers come with "weatherproofing" kits?
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
>
> Beings that this is a tech group I might add...... Build them! There are
> many great poly/rubber drivers out there and a good mylar tweet can last
> quite some time.
>
> You WILL have to replace drivers, don't blow all your money there.
Instead
> spend it on fiberglassing the enclosure and building good driver
protection.
> Many pro speakers use what some call "rain screen" in front of UV
resistant
> foam. This will keep the drivers dry for the most part, not going to work
> in gale force driving rain front on!
>
> I plan an outdoor homebrew project soon, May post back.
>
> As for quality, well, they are outside, your noise floor is up, and they
> will probably be mounted in a less than ideal configuration. If you want
to
> enjoy superb audio, forget it, go inside :) But you can build something
> with good spectral balance for a decent price. Price will go up if you
> decide to go 70V due to the price of high quality transformers and an amp
to
> drive them, I'd go with a commercial 70V amp (Crown/QSC) if you have a
long
> run. Less than 50/75 ft then low impedance should be fine.
>
> Chad
>
>
 
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Well, with due regard to the comments here about the difficulty of getting
and appreciating hifi out of doors I bought a pair of marine speakers off
overstock.com (normally $300, yours for $100 a pair). I hope they sound OK!

- Andrew

"Bill Riel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> In article <9fpHd.3499$2e7.1761@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
> achalk@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com says...
> > Thanks to Todd, Scott, William and Bill. Your suggestions pointed me in
the
> > right direction. I'm trying to choose now. I think the discussion got a
> > little off-topic at some point.
> >
> > - Andrew
>
> Andrew,
>
> I'd be interested in how your search goes, because I'll likely be doing
> the same thing this summer - I'd really like to set up some weatherproof
> speakers on my deck...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill