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Very well said Jeff: Thanks
"Jeff Rigby" <jeffg212@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
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>> <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:02:20 -0400, "Curmudgeon" <biteme@nospam.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >Just remember...until hdtv came along, Samsung was at the bottom of
>> > >the
>> > >pile; the cheapest junk made...they gave Emerson a good name.
>> > >Overnight...almost literally...they've positioned themselves as this
>> cutting
>> > >edge high tech concern.
>> > >Maybe they are. But I'd be cautious, just the same.
>> > ---------------------
>> > Shows what you know. Samsung has been a leader in electrical
>> > engineering concerns for the scientific community since before
>> > Matsushita even made a name for themselves. They didn't get good at
>> > consumer electronics until the 90's because it was below them to
>> > invest much energy in such low brow endeavours.
>>
>> In terms of consumer electronics, my experience is that he is more right
>> than wrong. Your reverence for Samsung indicates that you don't have
>> much
>> experience with repairing their consumer products. As many manufacturers
>> have learned, great technology, great R&D, great engineering ability, and
>> lots of resources do not necessarily translate into the best of consumer
>> products. Do you have something to add that is relevant to HDTV?
>>
>> Samsung has tried to buy a large chunk of the HDTV market by jumping into
>> DLP, sat receivers, and upconverting DVD players early and pushing them
>> to
>> market. This has been good for the market, but Samsung and their
> customers
>> are paying and will pay a price for this push. The many problems with
>> the
>> DLP sets are evidence of this. They do not relate to the DLP technology
> as
>> much as to the fact that they did not get the bugs out and tried to push
> the
>> technology at a low price to buy market share.
>>
>> Hopefully they will learn what other companies have and get the kinks
> worked
>> out. If their other TV products for consumers are an indication, they
> will
>> likely continue to push the low end of the price scale for DLP to
>> maintain
>> their market share. The result will likely be similar to their other
>> products, weak.
>>
>> I just got back from a DLP training class for another manufacturer.
>> There
>> were numerous questions like "do these have problem xxxx like the
> Samsungs"
>> and lots of jokes and chuckles as techs brought up problems they were
> seeing
>> with the Samsung sets. The trainer had done this class for hundreds of
>> techs across the country and had heard the same chorus at all of the
>> classes. Several of the manufacturers reps that I have talked to repeat
> the
>> same mantra on DLP..."we are NOT Samsung."
>>
>> Leonard
>
> I agree: "Just remember...until hdtv came along, Samsung was at the bottom
> of the
> the cheapest junk made, Overnight...almost literally...they've positioned
> themselves as this
> cutting edge high tech concern. Maybe they are. But I'd be cautious,
> just
> the same."
>
> Until 2002 they had problems but on the other hand they had in place fixes
> for problems that I haven't seen on higher end TV's like; dust gaskets so
> dust wouldn't get in-between the lens in projection TV's and Light
> absorbing foam around metal parts in the light box. All in all I'd say
> that
> consistency MIGHT still be a problem but they are working at it.
>
> I have fewer problems getting parts for Samsung, faster parts delivery,
> less
> time on hold to get a person at parts or technical services, etc. Parts
> are
> less expensive, which is a big change, they used to be second in parts
> cost
> next to Phillips as the highest with Toshiba being the least expensive.
> They will be making the LCD TV's for SONY, maybe even the DLP sets.
>
> As far as the DLP Samsungs are concerned I haven't seen an easier set to
> repair. As for problems with them, most are third party problems like
> Phillips lamp and ballast problems. I, like others have seen a couple of
> lip sync problems but they turned out to be the HD cable box. We've seen
> a
> few DMD boards bad, several color wheels bad and some surge damaged power
> supplys.
>
> I'm impressed with the brillance, sharpness and convergance registration
> of
> the picture on my low end Samsung (Akai) projection TV. On the other hand
> I'd have liked a Focus regulation circuit or better troubleshooting
> information (dropouts) for the HD tuner. Also it's frustrating when you
> have a marginal channel as the whole set slows down. Remote commands may
> take 3 seconds to complete and if you have a really screwed HD channel it
> can cause the set to turn off.
>
>
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