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More info?)
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:57:38 -0700, "Bruiser" <noth@nks.com> wrote:
>Dennis Mayer wrote:
>>> Bruiser wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brad Houser wrote:
>>>>>> "Bruiser" <noth@nks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9vednetirtH3A5LcRVn-pg@giganews.com...
>>>>>>> I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be
>>>>>>> confused with Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could
>>>>>>> someone please clear this up for me? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think there is any confusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DTV is sometimes used as a shorthand for DirecTV, the satellite
>>>>>> provider. While it is using a digital stream to send video and
>>>>>> audio, it has nothing to do with the Digital TV standards. It
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be obvious from the context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DTV usually means Digital TV, as defined by the ATSC (Advanced
>>>>>> Television Systems Committee). www.atsc.org is their web. They
>>>>>> created the standards for the 18 different digital television
>>>>>> formats:
>>>>>>
>>>>
>http
/support.gateway.com/s/CsmrEltrncs/DigitalTV/Shared/2517984faq42.shtml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you could quote where it says there is a difference, I could
>>>>>> respond to that specifically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad Houser
>>>>
>>>> Brad,
>>>>
>>>> I did mis-speak: while HDTVPub.com does use "DTV" to mean Digital
>>>> TV, the exact quote is:
>>>>
>>>> "...please remember that digital cable is not DTV..."
>>>> (http
/www.hdtvpub.com/reception/dtvcablecompany.cfm)
>>>>
>>>> So if my cable company (Adelphia) is offering digital cable
>>>> reception, that only refers to the way it is piped in, but the
>>>> format remains the same? In other words, on an HDTV set with the
>>>> proper STB, would digital cable reception look any different that
>>>> regular analog? I know it wouldn't be or look like high def, but
>>>> would there be any inherent benefit in upgrading my service to a
>>>> digital package if I didn't particularly care for the channel
>>>> lineup (Adelphia will rent me the STB for $9.95/mo in order to
>>>> receive local station in high def, without having to do the entire
>>>> upgrade to digital cable)?
>>>>
>>>> My understanding is that digital cable allows the cable company to
>>>> increase the bandwidth and broadcast more channels with crisper
>>>> audio, but that's about it. Is this correct?
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> All Cable TV Programs, be they Analog, Digital, or Hi Def Digital
>>>
>>> run thru the same cable but as Groups of channels at Different
>>> Frequencies.
>>>
>>> Do not buy the SD Digital Package... This does not guarantee a
>>> Super
>>>
>>> Picture ie: SD (Std Def). Purchase the Cable Analog package
>>>
>>> plus the Hi Def package to get the best bang for the Cable
>>> Buck...
>>>
>>> The Cable Hi Def 'QAM' Box may rent for $8/ month...
>
>
>Thanks, that's what I needed to know (I believe Adelphia's HDTV basic
>package is $9.95/mo. on top of the ~$42 I'm spending on the classic cable
>package).
>
>So, back to basics: digital cable is pretty much pointless, quality-wise.
Digital cable signals are generally over compressed to the point
that either Direct Tv and Dish sat signals will look better.
Direct Tv and Dish maintain better QC on their digital signals.
For the most part they run all their nationally distributed signals
out of a central uplink location. That significantly reduces the
manpower needed to monitor signals.
Cable maintains hundreds, if not thousands of head ends. Which
would require tens of thousands of QC personal to match the SAT
providers. Since they don't have the desire or the money, they will
make additional compromises in quality.
Another nasty problem for Cable co's is that a significant portion
of their distribution system is tied up sending old style NTSC
signals.
>Digital TV, however, is the means by which HDTV can be broadcast, although
>most stations do not do that exclusively (with the exception of PBS, I
>guess), correct? So any station ID'd as, for instance, "Kxxx-DT" will be
>broadcasting in 480p, which will be upped to 720p (or 1080i) for HD
>content?
As for receiving local digital (H)DTV broadcasts. For the most
part, cable co's can't improve it over what you can get at your house
using a low cost antenna setup. That is one reason why (H)DTV SAT
receiver set tops come with built in (8VSB) OTA tuners.
You put up you own antenna, pickup the local (H)DTV broadcasts for
free, and skip paying the Cable piggy.