Need info about Antenna

[JOJO]

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Hi, upon a suggestion form David, I went here www.antennaweb.org and found
that I could
use a small multi-directional antenna (yellow-uhf) to pick up
local channels broadcast in HD. It seems that my 4 major networks
broadcast in DTV. I will need a (green-uhf to pick up PBS in DTV, so I had
better
go with that) I currently own a direct TV sat system and pay
extra for local channels broadcast in digital, not HD.

So...before I run out and buy anything, I need educating.

I have some general questions, and a few that are specific to my system.
I would also appreciate any helpful advice even if not specifically asked
for.

My initial opinion would be an antenna that clips onto my sat dish. The most
popular
thing I have found online seems to be the TERK, but I'm not familiar with
the different
models.
Also, what about indoor antenna...feasible or a waste of money?

in general, will I need an antenna for each room, or one with a multiswitch?
If I clip it to my dish do I have to run separate wiring with it or does it
somehow
tie into the existing wiring?

My specific situation is this.
I just bought a new (old) house. The existing sat dish feed 3 rooms.
The new HD dish feeds the living room only. So it seems I'm looking
at a minimum of 2 antenna?

I'm very new to this and I'm not sure I really know all of the questions to
ask..
But thanks for any feedback you can give me..

Also...antenna.org says these channels are broadcast in DTV, how do I find
out what is broadcast in HDTV?
jojo

 

[Eric]

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dont get the terk I own one and it is worthless. get the zenith silver
sensor. I am amazed at this antenna. the terk got maybe 4 OTA channels the
Zenith gets all 13 available here in Boston and then some in New Hampshire.
It has amazing range
"jojo" <cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com> wrote in message
newsQGvc.4230$nz5.336@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
> Hi, upon a suggestion form David, I went here www.antennaweb.org and
found
> that I could
> use a small multi-directional antenna (yellow-uhf) to pick up
> local channels broadcast in HD. It seems that my 4 major networks
> broadcast in DTV. I will need a (green-uhf to pick up PBS in DTV, so I had
> better
> go with that) I currently own a direct TV sat system and pay
> extra for local channels broadcast in digital, not HD.
>
> So...before I run out and buy anything, I need educating.
>
> I have some general questions, and a few that are specific to my system.
> I would also appreciate any helpful advice even if not specifically asked
> for.
>
> My initial opinion would be an antenna that clips onto my sat dish. The
most
> popular
> thing I have found online seems to be the TERK, but I'm not familiar with
> the different
> models.
> Also, what about indoor antenna...feasible or a waste of money?
>
> in general, will I need an antenna for each room, or one with a
multiswitch?
> If I clip it to my dish do I have to run separate wiring with it or does
it
> somehow
> tie into the existing wiring?
>
> My specific situation is this.
> I just bought a new (old) house. The existing sat dish feed 3 rooms.
> The new HD dish feeds the living room only. So it seems I'm looking
> at a minimum of 2 antenna?
>
> I'm very new to this and I'm not sure I really know all of the questions
to
> ask..
> But thanks for any feedback you can give me..
>
> Also...antenna.org says these channels are broadcast in DTV, how do I find
> out what is broadcast in HDTV?
> jojo
>
>
>
>
>

 

[JOJO]

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what model?

"eric" <eric.pelser@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> dont get the terk I own one and it is worthless. get the zenith silver
> sensor. I am amazed at this antenna. the terk got maybe 4 OTA channels
the
> Zenith gets all 13 available here in Boston and then some in New
Hampshire.
> It has amazing range
> "jojo" <cgv_2000*yourhat*@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsQGvc.4230$nz5.336@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
> > Hi, upon a suggestion form David, I went here www.antennaweb.org and
> found
> > that I could
> > use a small multi-directional antenna (yellow-uhf) to pick up
> > local channels broadcast in HD. It seems that my 4 major networks
> > broadcast in DTV. I will need a (green-uhf to pick up PBS in DTV, so I
had
> > better
> > go with that) I currently own a direct TV sat system and pay
> > extra for local channels broadcast in digital, not HD.
> >
> > So...before I run out and buy anything, I need educating.
> >
> > I have some general questions, and a few that are specific to my system.
> > I would also appreciate any helpful advice even if not specifically
asked
> > for.
> >
> > My initial opinion would be an antenna that clips onto my sat dish. The
> most
> > popular
> > thing I have found online seems to be the TERK, but I'm not familiar
with
> > the different
> > models.
> > Also, what about indoor antenna...feasible or a waste of money?
> >
> > in general, will I need an antenna for each room, or one with a
> multiswitch?
> > If I clip it to my dish do I have to run separate wiring with it or does
> it
> > somehow
> > tie into the existing wiring?
> >
> > My specific situation is this.
> > I just bought a new (old) house. The existing sat dish feed 3 rooms.
> > The new HD dish feeds the living room only. So it seems I'm looking
> > at a minimum of 2 antenna?
> >
> > I'm very new to this and I'm not sure I really know all of the questions
> to
> > ask..
> > But thanks for any feedback you can give me..
> >
> > Also...antenna.org says these channels are broadcast in DTV, how do I
find
> > out what is broadcast in HDTV?
> > jojo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Guest]

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jojo wrote:
> what model?
>

He said the Zenith Silver Sensor:
http/www.zenith.com/sub_prod/product_Display.asp?cat=49&id=131


--
David G.

 

[Guest]

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jojo wrote:
> Also, what about indoor antenna...feasible or a waste of money?

Many on this news group have claimed success using an indoor antenna. If
it is simple to locate the antenna inside first, then try it. Otherwise,
mount the antenna outside. A UHF antenna is small compared with a
VHF/UHF antenna and is usually fairly easy to install.



>
> in general, will I need an antenna for each room,

No, just one antenna will work. An RF distribution system is needed to
connect multiple rooms to a single antenna. The distribution system may
be as simple as an RF splitter with each room connected to an output
tap; or better, an amplified system with a low noise antenna
preamplifier connected at the antenna followed by the splitter
distribution system.


> tie into the existing wiring?

Yes, but needs to be done with care to avoid degradation of either the
satellite signal or the OTA signal. If the satellite IF frequencies and
the TV frequencies do not overlap (usually don't overlap, but do not
know if this is true for all satellite systems) they can be combined on
a single cable. A diplexer is designed for this purpose. Be careful
though, low voltage power is sent through the coax cable to power the
satellite dish, make sure that the TV antenna system is electrically
isolated from the satellite power system. In addition, you will probably
need a good low noise antenna pre-amplifier and will require a separate
power connection. Do not try to power the antenna preamplifier from the
satellite power. It may work and may save a little effort, but is not a
good idea to do so. You will need more detail to do the job
successfully. Try to get a book that describes the techniques or maybe
there is on line info that may help.

 

[Guest]

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numeric wrote:
> jojo wrote:
>> Also, what about indoor antenna...feasible or a waste of money?
>
> Many on this news group have claimed success using an indoor antenna.
> If it is simple to locate the antenna inside first, then try it.
> Otherwise, mount the antenna outside. A UHF antenna is small compared
> with a VHF/UHF antenna and is usually fairly easy to install.
>
>
>
>>
>> in general, will I need an antenna for each room,
>
> No, just one antenna will work. An RF distribution system is needed to
> connect multiple rooms to a single antenna. The distribution system
> may be as simple as an RF splitter with each room connected to an
> output tap; or better, an amplified system with a low noise antenna
> preamplifier connected at the antenna followed by the splitter
> distribution system.
>
>
>> tie into the existing wiring?
>
> Yes, but needs to be done with care to avoid degradation of either the
> satellite signal or the OTA signal. If the satellite IF frequencies
> and the TV frequencies do not overlap (usually don't overlap, but do
> not know if this is true for all satellite systems) they can be
> combined on a single cable. A diplexer is designed for this purpose.
> Be careful though, low voltage power is sent through the coax cable
> to power the satellite dish, make sure that the TV antenna system is
> electrically isolated from the satellite power system. In addition,
> you will probably need a good low noise antenna pre-amplifier and
> will require a separate power connection. Do not try to power the
> antenna preamplifier from the satellite power. It may work and may
> save a little effort, but is not a good idea to do so. You will need
> more detail to do the job successfully. Try to get a book that
> describes the techniques or maybe there is on line info that may help.

I think she should be able to tie the HD antenna feed into the
multiswitch the DirecTV installer left her. I thought both the HD OTA
feed and the DirecTV satellite feed could be sent over the same cable
and processed by the HD DirecTV receiver.

Can someone confirm this?


--
David G.

 

[JOJO]

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"eric" <eric.pelser@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:xYHvc.19655$hB2.13306@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> dont get the terk I own one and it is worthless. get the zenith silver
> sensor.

I think by your recommendation and others I have read online, I'm going to
get this.
I have a question. I put the model number in for the zenith, and also got
feedback on the same (looks the same)
antenna from Gemini. Gemini ZHDTV1
Are Gemini and Zenith the same company?
I can find better prices and faster shipping on the Gemini....
Thanks,
jojo

 

[greywolf]

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> I think by your recommendation and others I have read online, I'm going to
> get this.
> I have a question. I put the model number in for the zenith, and also got
> feedback on the same (looks the same)
> antenna from Gemini. Gemini ZHDTV1
> Are Gemini and Zenith the same company?
> I can find better prices and faster shipping on the Gemini....
> Thanks,
> jojo
>
It's the same antenna. You may see it marketed as Zenith, Gemini, or
Antiference. Terk makes a knockoff of similar appearance that is no good.

Pat

 

[JOJO]

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"Greywolf" <greywolfin45@*spamisbad*sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_e%vc.19080$eH1.8748017@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> > I think by your recommendation and others I have read online, I'm going
to
> > get this.
> > I have a question. I put the model number in for the zenith, and also
got
> > feedback on the same (looks the same)
> > antenna from Gemini. Gemini ZHDTV1
> > Are Gemini and Zenith the same company?
> > I can find better prices and faster shipping on the Gemini....
> > Thanks,
> > jojo
> >
> It's the same antenna. You may see it marketed as Zenith, Gemini, or
> Antiference. Terk makes a knockoff of similar appearance that is no good.
>
> Pat
>
>

Thanks Pat.....
So after I purchase this I just plug it into my HDTV (ant c DTV) and then do
a channel scan on my TV?
This sound really simply and I would like to try it out before doing the
whole house.
Wonder where I can get one on the way home??

Thanks,
jojo