snatchysquid :
and is that real 7.1 or is it fake? thx for the help
http
/www.technologyx.com/featured/patriot-viper-v360-gaming-headset-review/
review here says they have a built in sub which leads me to think they are real. I cannot tell unless I perform a post-mortem and count the speakers, but they appear to have the .1 at least