To Send Or Not Send Dell LapT to Dell Repair Center - Security/Privacy next concern

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Hi...looking for best advice on situation haven't had before. I have a Dell Inspiron 15 5555 laptop, running Windows 10 ver 1607, and it is just a few weeks shy of the one year mark...warranty until 09/21/17.

Was working fine, shut down as normal and then the nest day, press the power button and nothing. Unfortunately this model is on the low end, and doesn't have any light to indicate when power is on, so if there is a problem, you can only really tell no power by not hearing fan or HDD activity or feel anything. I looked up basic troubleshooting...tried different outlets, checked power cord for any damage, took battery out (which should have been at full charge,) pressed power button 30 seconds, and then replaced battery...nothing. I tried once again, battery out, discharge w/power button 30 seconds then replaced battery and plugged in...nothing - think I may have also tried process with power cord only. The led on the power cord does remain lit.

Looked on line for potential problems, and viewed a few video's of model or similar being taken apart to troubleshoot (I am no tech repair...the most I have ever done was replace a HDD in someone's Laptop, and once or twice upgraded memory mod's in a desktop & a netbook. This model laptop has a 'cheap' feel (it was all I could afford at the time) and the plastic does make you concerned about if you should need to pull off the keyboard, etc.

I ended up calling (with massive dread,) Dell Tech Support, giving all the pertinent info & what I had tried so far. The 'tech' seemed to be going through his script, and offered long silent pauses. He then proclaimed it was the motherboard and since it was still under warranty, to send device and cord to their service center in Texas. Asked if I had a box to which I don't at the moment but would have to go buy as well as a decent amount of bubble wrap. My first concern, having never ever even considered taking or shipping a device off to someone to service, was is this absolutely necessary. I pointed out to the tech that on Dell's own site in the Community, an owner of the same model just out of warranty, had the same description, took to a local shop and was told the motherboard was the problem but not worth replacing. The person felt had nothing to lose so opened up to look for anything outstanding, and ultimately saw that there was a lose connection between the motherboard and (and something I can't remember,) tightened a few screws, and the laptop has been powering on for over a year & counting.

The tech didn't answer (perhaps language barrier??) so I asked was there anything else I could possibly do before sending. He asked "do you have a Philip head screwdriver?" Well, I do but I would think that I may need more than that...not sure if for an electronic device if I have the correct sizes. Anyway, I told him "yes,,likely." He abruptly said "i will proceed to instruct you which parts to remove." I first asked if he could approximate how many parts and or time involved (have spent too many 4 to 6 hour phone calls with Dell over the years,) and he counted "12." Doubting my skill level, I asked him that if I should pry something the wrong way, and something - even just a cosmetic feature - should crack or break, it would then no longer be covered under warranty. He confirmed this. I also asked him, if sent to the service center, and it is the motherboard or any other warrantied part, would there be any $$$ dollar amount I may be responsible for - other than the cost of the packing materials, etc. He told me that I would be responsible for all repair if there are signs of damage caused by "the owner" and proceeded to mention, obvious signs of being dropped or liquid spilled on keyboard, etc. (this laptop has not been heavily used, and doesn't even get thrown into a back pack & carted around....generally sits in one spot so that I can use if don't have to go use the desktop. I also asked, given that there would be a minimum of 4 to 5 sorting centers / stops the package would make, if the device is being jostled or banged around in transit, and it arrives with a problem due to this, I and the technician's wouldn't know this, and how would I know if they wouldn't turn around and tell me that I am at fault and would have to pay. No answer. Last question was privacy concerns, and he 'assured' that their technicians only do what they have to and privacy should not be a concern. Hmm??

In the moment, I decided...I am a mere novice...not talented like most users here & elsewhere on the internet, and that it is still under warranty. So I decided that having him 'guide me through the process' which would likely be hell because there is impatience on that side, and usually tech not understanding basic questions and or, them speaking and not being able to understand pronunciation, and have to keep asking to repeat and take a good guess....to send me the FedEx label and info.

Later that evening, went online via PC, and looked up Dell Tech support & laptops and came across some pretty 'harsh' accounts of really bad experiences not only with telephone support but with what I was looking for - sending to Service Ctr. One site it appeared that many who sent devices under warranty were left without their laptops for well over specified timeframes, and then told that the repair was not covered. There seemed to be a general consensus that Dell will do everything it can to get out of honoring a warranty and so on.

So, I am here to ask for any & all advice...with no past experience of sending away a device (oh and sort of funny that the emailed instructions say to make sure device is not password protected because the Tech's need to access OS to run diagnostics....my device won't power on....I can't undo anything or backup!) & little, very little experience making any physical changes to devices, should I make an attempt to perform some exploratory surgery, and hope to find a lose connection on the patient or send it away, as it is still a few weeks under warranty?

Advice & thoughts most welcomed.

Thanks

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Honestly, I'd just send it away.

Take a photo of the laptop in the packaging as proof of condition before you sent so if it is damaged the shipping company is responsible.
However, it may be worth putting a fragile sticker or closing the box with fragile tape.

Send it off why it's still in warranty unless you're looking for a new excuse for a laptop.

Make sure you remove all the personal data or use a encryption service which may be difficult without removing the drive which would therefore void the warranty.
Honestly, I'd just send it away.

Take a photo of the laptop in the packaging as proof of condition before you sent so if it is damaged the shipping company is responsible.
However, it may be worth putting a fragile sticker or closing the box with fragile tape.

Send it off why it's still in warranty unless you're looking for a new excuse for a laptop.

Make sure you remove all the personal data or use a encryption service which may be difficult without removing the drive which would therefore void the warranty.
 
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Xmaiden2

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Funny you mention taking a photo. I had decided previously that I would take multiple pictures of the laptop before packing. This was because there is not so much as a scratch on it...it looks like it did the day I bought it, and after reading some comments from dell users, I thought it would be good to have, just in case I would be told 'it looks like it was dropped' or something insane. I did also look at info from a local FedEx location in which they promote packing laptops...this would be the location I would have to go to anyway to have it shipped. I briefly skimmed through their description of how they do it, and I believe they offer some monetary compensation if lost or damaged. I would be able to see the way they handle it.

The unfortunate aspect is that the timing couldn't be worse. When it rains, it pours...past few months...family member laid-off, illness, and you name the appliance...refrigerator, water-heater, one car engine, and another car major mechanical, and then the laptop! So, no excuse for a new laptop...I had really hoped to avoid even the cost of packing materials, as that is too much at the moment. I guess you are right that the way to go is sending it off - hope for the best with the warranty.

As for the personal data - I think I am stuck on that part of the headache. I've yet to download the fine print of the warranty terms but, if like most standard warranty restrictions, messing with the hard drive would likely give them reason to void it. It would be great to if I could easily remove the drive & handle the data. It actually looks like it would be easy to remove - just not sure what would be possible from there.

Thanks for the input - it helps making the final call.
 

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Do you have a USB stick? offload the most personal files on to there and delete them before sending it off.

 

Xmaiden2

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"Make sure you remove all the personal data or use a encryption service which may be difficult without removing the drive which would therefore void the warranty. "

A new day, a new question about this advice. The hard drive is easy to access. If I were to remove it without any problems, I'm assuming that I would need something very specific to be able to remove or encrypt data? Some type of device or connector to transfer & remove?? I've begun to look through tutorials but haven't either honed in on similar factors yet or not searching with the correct terms. Again, too bad this is a no power situation...would have been easier to address the personal info issue.

So although more or less resigned to sending it away, this last point is the thorn. I will continue searching for info but, any info to further assist (either as a time saver or a sanity saver) would be again welcome. Because of time restraints, not sure if this site should be my main source to continue searching for something that applies or if random video tutorials...to which never sure of good sources or not.
 

KirbysHammer

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Why do you have to remove the drive to offload stuff onto a USB stick? Do you not have working USB ports?

 

Xmaiden2

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Perhaps I am misunderstanding something. Based upon a suggestion from a previous response to remove the drive, if it wasn't under warranty, The suggestion was made in response to my concerns to privacy. Even if all I wanted to do was copy the content of the drive, how would I use a USB without any power to the laptop? Forgive if this sounds like a really dumb question. I just assume if no power, I would not be able to see anything on screen and therefore transfer anything to a USB. Also, my concern would be less of trying to 'save' any data but rather not have anything available to a repair tech or other prying eyes.

I did just come across something to read further - - a mention "some repairs don’t necessarily need to include your hard drive with the system you deliver to your technician." If this is true, I can contact Dell Support and ask if removing my HD prior to sending, would void the warranty.

Still open to further thoughts...I highly respect the knowledge & experience many of you have. I know where my PC literacy ends, and when to yell "help." :??:
 

KirbysHammer

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Oh I am retarded, I forgot your laptop doesn't even power on....

 

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Just an update. I decided to contact Dell Support again to ask this specific question...chose to do via chat rather then the 10 hour phone calls. I referenced the previous service request for me to send the laptop to their service center, and asked if I could take the HD out, and not send it with the laptop due to privacy / security. The agent said yes! I asked him to confirm, that this would not void the warranty & can't afford to be told down the road that it will cost to get the laptop back. - he said due to my concerns, taking out the HD will not effect the warranty, and he would send this confirmation to me via email as well as archiving the chat transcript (I already had my finger on the "print" button :) ) He only requested that I make note on the repair form, that the HD is with me so the technician "will have a clear idea." So, I will remove the HD, and prepare to send it on it's journey.

Thank you all for taking the time, and the suggestions...it helps to bounce questions or doubts around. KirbysHammer - not "retarted." Do you know how many times I forget or skip something...you don't want to know. Peace all.