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Hey I like your plan for nature movies. anyway a6000 is a good choice for picture but I swear even though it has 60 fps for 1080p video. I hate this camera. if you want something good for video but very portable, it will be a7s or a7r but it is too expensive. go with nikon d5100 or above. or go with canon t2i and hack it with magic lantern, or buy an eos m which is a mirrorles camera. this is great for video with magic lantern.

spend for lenses.

 

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basroil

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Mike_333 :

Hello everyone,
I want to buy a new film camera because I'm going to backpacking for a year. It's very important to me that I can make very good shots but also good quality pictures. Because I travel a lot it is handy to have a small camera. I've looking for a DSLR camera like the Nikon D3300 but the recommended me by store Mediamarkt to go for the Sony 6000. By the way, I want to make movies and pictures from city's and nature, like boots, birds, people and landscapes. What do you guys think is the best option for me? I'm a starter in more professional use.

Here's a few questions you need to answer before you decide:
1) Have you ever used an SLR before?
2) Have you ever studied photography?
3) How long do you have before you intend to use it?
4) What is your budget?
5) Are you sure you can carry the extra weight?

If you answered no, nothing, and no time, I highly suggest not bothering with an SLR, since you will not be able to make better use of it than you would a smaller and easier to use point and shoot. Likewise, if your budget is under $1000, it'll be hard to get all the parts you need

 

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You didn't mention your budget. For travelling mirrorless cameras are great for their size. And sony a6000 is a very good option. I'm suggesting you to get a look at the Nikon D5300 as it is a fantastic camera. Without the anti-aliasing filter you can get sharp pictures without moire. And the lcd screen is great as it is fully articulated. But either way you can have a great device in your backpack. Just go to a store and see the ergonomics of each one and grab the one that suits you.

Happy filming

 

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jnturja :

You didn't mention your budget. For travelling mirrorless cameras are great for their size. And sony a6000 is a very good option. I'm suggesting you to get a look at the Nikon D5300 as it is a fantastic camera. Without the anti-aliasing filter you can get sharp pictures without moire. And the lcd screen is great as it is fully articulated. But either way you can have a great device in your backpack. Just go to a store and see the ergonomics of each one and grab the one that suits you.

Happy filming

sony a6000 is not a good choice for video I swear

 

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(Hello there, I am THE SAME dude as Mike_333 but forgot my password and didn't get an email to reset it)

Here's a few questions you need to answer before you decide:
1) Have you ever used an SLR before?
Yes, the Panasonic lumix DMC fz8
2) Have you ever studied photography?
No
3) How long do you have before you intend to use it?
Well, I want to practise for 6 months and after that when I'm going to backpacking I want to use it for more serious goals in private use.
4) What is your budget?
like 700-800 euro, as it should €1000 but not without lenses. €1500 would be too expensive.
5) Are you sure you can carry the extra weight?
I have a good backpack so that should be not a problem.

Besides, I've looked for another camera which is probably better for video as the a6000. Like the Panasonic G7?

 

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Mike_3332

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I believe you fcnealvillangca, it's a great camera for photo, does it good for video as well, but is not the right camera if you want it especially for video ;-)

Is the Panasonic G7 a better solution?? I'm very enthusiastic because for it's performers for video

 

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Mike_3332 :

I believe you fcnealvillangca, it's a great camera for photo, does it good for video as well, but is not the right camera if you want it especially for video ;-)

Is the Panasonic G7 a better solution?? I'm very enthusiastic because for it's performers for video

Ok, I think the Panasonic G7 is a better solution. I've told you abou the Nikon D5300. I'm telling you the advantages of both of them:

Nikon:
1. Bigger sensor size (which means better as you get more control on the depth of field)
2. High Dynamic Range
3. Great low light performance
4. More Megapixels and
5. More battery life(which is very essential when your primary objective is shooting video)
6. Lot of options for choosing glasses
7. Has 9 cross type focus sensors
8. Absolutely no moire or aliasing
8. Price

Panasonic G7:

1. Can shoot at 4k
2. Faster continuous shooting
3. 100% viewfinder coverage
4. Touch screen
5. More focus points
6. Less weight

In my opinion if you want to shoot 4k videos, go with the Lumix. Otherwise in my eyes D5300 is the clear winner as you can save some bucks for some great glasses. I'm suggesting you to go for the nikon if you don't have the intention to shoot 4k. You won't regret it.

Happy filming.

 

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Ok, I think the Panasonic G7 is a better solution. I've told you abou the Nikon D5300. I'm telling you the advantages of both of them:

Nikon:
1. Bigger sensor size (which means better as you get more control on the depth of field)
2. High Dynamic Range
3. Great low light performance
4. More Megapixels and
5. More battery life(which is very essential when your primary objective is shooting video)
6. Lot of options for choosing glasses
7. Has 9 cross type focus sensors
8. Absolutely no moire or aliasing
8. Price

Panasonic G7:

1. Can shoot at 4k
2. Faster continuous shooting
3. 100% viewfinder coverage
4. Touch screen
5. More focus points
6. Less weight

In my opinion if you want to shoot 4k videos, go with the Lumix. Otherwise in my eyes D5300 is the clear winner as you can save some bucks for some great glasses. I'm suggesting you to go for the nikon if you don't have the intention to shoot 4k. You won't regret it.

Happy filming.


Okay I understand your opinion and appreciate that very much! But If you I'll go for pure ''image quality'' which one would you take? And what I am trying to see is, what I believe, 4K is much sharper than full HD but that makes it not always a better image quality in general right?

 

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fcnealvillangca

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Mike_3332 :

Ok, I think the Panasonic G7 is a better solution. I've told you abou the Nikon D5300. I'm telling you the advantages of both of them:

Nikon:
1. Bigger sensor size (which means better as you get more control on the depth of field)
2. High Dynamic Range
3. Great low light performance
4. More Megapixels and
5. More battery life(which is very essential when your primary objective is shooting video)
6. Lot of options for choosing glasses
7. Has 9 cross type focus sensors
8. Absolutely no moire or aliasing
8. Price

Panasonic G7:

1. Can shoot at 4k
2. Faster continuous shooting
3. 100% viewfinder coverage
4. Touch screen
5. More focus points
6. Less weight

In my opinion if you want to shoot 4k videos, go with the Lumix. Otherwise in my eyes D5300 is the clear winner as you can save some bucks for some great glasses. I'm suggesting you to go for the nikon if you don't have the intention to shoot 4k. You won't regret it.

Happy filming.


Okay I understand your opinion and appreciate that very much! But If you I'll go for pure ''image quality'' which one would you take? And what I am trying to see is, what I believe, 4K is much sharper than full HD but that makes it not always a better image quality in general right?

no if you want to shoot 4k go with panasonic hc-x920 or ax100 or canon xc10 because for me it's better

 

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Mike_3332 :

I believe you fcnealvillangca, it's a great camera for photo, does it good for video as well, but is not the right camera if you want it especially for video ;-)

Is the Panasonic G7 a better solution?? I'm very enthusiastic because for it's performers for video

I don't like G7 but I already used an LX100 for some reason it's better. if you are familiar with rx100 IV it's a 4k full frame compact camera. I think you should check it out. it's a 4k camera which is also good in low light for a low price only.

 

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http/www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-Cyber-shot-DSC-RX100-IV-versus-Nikon-D5300___1033_919

I always look at the dxomark readings as it is very informative and they do some really good tests with cameras and lenses.(higher scores are better and don't look at the iso sensitivity where lower is better) If you look for sharper images then go for D5300 as it doesn't have any anti aliasing filter which will give you the opportunity to enjoy sharper images. D5300 has way better low light performance, has much much bigger sensor size and great color sensitivity and it is much much cheaper than the RX100 IV. The sony can shoot 4k, is lighter and has great continuous shooting ability. It's your choice but the sensor size is very important to me as it can give you control over depth of field. I'm telling you again, if you're not onto 4k, then get the D5300, get some great glasses and see the magic of color.

Happy filming.

 

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basroil

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Mike_3332 :

(Hello there, I am THE SAME dude as Mike_333 but forgot my password and didn't get an email to reset it)
Here's a few questions you need to answer before you decide:
1) Have you ever used an SLR before?
Yes, the Panasonic lumix DMC fz8
2) Have you ever studied photography?
No
3) How long do you have before you intend to use it?
Well, I want to practise for 6 months and after that when I'm going to backpacking I want to use it for more serious goals in private use.
4) What is your budget?
like 700-800 euro, as it should €1000 but not without lenses. €1500 would be too expensive.
5) Are you sure you can carry the extra weight?
I have a good backpack so that should be not a problem.

Besides, I've looked for another camera which is probably better for video as the a6000. Like the Panasonic G7?

In that case, I would highly suggest getting a Canon EOS Rebel T6s/760D if you can find a 18-55+55-250 lens combo kit on sale. It's almost a prosumer camera (i.e. better for experienced users than DX000/regular rebel cameras), but still a bit lighter (always a plus) and has some auto functions useful for video. T6i/D5500 are also good if you can't find sales for the T6s

 

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D5300/D5500 are way better than the 760D. As D5500 and D5300 is almost the same camera, I'd prefer 5300 without any doubt.

 

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jnturja :

D5300/D5500 are way better than the 760D. As D5500 and D5300 is almost the same camera, I'd prefer 5300 without any doubt.

Pixel peeping and spec bashing is what idiots do All those cameras will be great in the hands of an expert, and in fact pretty much anything other than $50 vivitars will.

The most important things when looking for a camera are:
1) Feel of it, if the camera doesn't feel right in your hands it's going to affect your photography. It is very subjective, I absolutely despise Nikon bodies (even the VP of research at Nikon USA, funny anecdote from someone that interned there and went on a photo trip with him), others hate Canon (though most I know prefer it)
2) The lenses, since a body alone is useless. It's a fact that the low end lens segment goes to Canon on this end, just too many passable lenses for under $250 each.
3) Reliability, most are about the same, though the build quality of prosumer cameras like the 760D will give you some peace of mind. When traveling, it's even more important, and higher build quality of cameras like the 760D and D7200 really shines there.
4) What your friends/travel buddies have. Nothing is better than free "rentals". If all your friends are Nikon or all Canon, might as well join in just to borrow equipment.

 

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basroil :

jnturja :

D5300/D5500 are way better than the 760D. As D5500 and D5300 is almost the same camera, I'd prefer 5300 without any doubt.

Pixel peeping and spec bashing is what idiots do All those cameras will be great in the hands of an expert, and in fact pretty much anything other than $50 vivitars will.

The most important things when looking for a camera are:
1) Feel of it, if the camera doesn't feel right in your hands it's going to affect your photography. It is very subjective, I absolutely despise Nikon bodies (even the VP of research at Nikon USA, funny anecdote from someone that interned there and went on a photo trip with him), others hate Canon (though most I know prefer it)
2) The lenses, since a body alone is useless. It's a fact that the low end lens segment goes to Canon on this end, just too many passable lenses for under $250 each.
3) Reliability, most are about the same, though the build quality of prosumer cameras like the 760D will give you some peace of mind. When traveling, it's even more important, and higher build quality of cameras like the 760D and D7200 really shines there.
4) What your friends/travel buddies have. Nothing is better than free "rentals". If all your friends are Nikon or all Canon, might as well join in just to borrow equipment.

In my opinion, the bodies of canon are great but the glasses of nikon are much better than canon(although canon glasses are cheaper). I've used both the cameras and I know what they can produce. The color and texture of the D5300 is absolutely gorgeous. Yes, if the camera doesn't feel right to you, you should not buy it. But again my verdict goes to D5300 as it is the best choice in the price range.

 

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jnturja :

basroil :

jnturja :

D5300/D5500 are way better than the 760D. As D5500 and D5300 is almost the same camera, I'd prefer 5300 without any doubt.

Pixel peeping and spec bashing is what idiots do All those cameras will be great in the hands of an expert, and in fact pretty much anything other than $50 vivitars will.

The most important things when looking for a camera are:
1) Feel of it, if the camera doesn't feel right in your hands it's going to affect your photography. It is very subjective, I absolutely despise Nikon bodies (even the VP of research at Nikon USA, funny anecdote from someone that interned there and went on a photo trip with him), others hate Canon (though most I know prefer it)
2) The lenses, since a body alone is useless. It's a fact that the low end lens segment goes to Canon on this end, just too many passable lenses for under $250 each.
3) Reliability, most are about the same, though the build quality of prosumer cameras like the 760D will give you some peace of mind. When traveling, it's even more important, and higher build quality of cameras like the 760D and D7200 really shines there.
4) What your friends/travel buddies have. Nothing is better than free "rentals". If all your friends are Nikon or all Canon, might as well join in just to borrow equipment.

In my opinion, the bodies of canon are great but the glasses of nikon are much better than canon(although canon glasses are cheaper). I've used both the cameras and I know what they can produce. The color and texture of the D5300 is absolutely gorgeous. Yes, if the camera doesn't feel right to you, you should not buy it. But again my verdict goes to D5300 as it is the best choice in the price range.

hey I think no... canon glasses are also good I did try to film with 760 and eos m3 I think it's sharp enough even without magic lantern. the color is not a problem since you might enhance, edit, grade and saturated it anyway. but as I used this cameras I learn that you should also focus in lighting to achieve a good image quality. for me I don't care about the Maximum ISO because it will just destroy you video if you are using a cheap camera

 

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fcnealvillangca :

jnturja :

basroil :

jnturja :

D5300/D5500 are way better than the 760D. As D5500 and D5300 is almost the same camera, I'd prefer 5300 without any doubt.

Pixel peeping and spec bashing is what idiots do All those cameras will be great in the hands of an expert, and in fact pretty much anything other than $50 vivitars will.

The most important things when looking for a camera are:
1) Feel of it, if the camera doesn't feel right in your hands it's going to affect your photography. It is very subjective, I absolutely despise Nikon bodies (even the VP of research at Nikon USA, funny anecdote from someone that interned there and went on a photo trip with him), others hate Canon (though most I know prefer it)
2) The lenses, since a body alone is useless. It's a fact that the low end lens segment goes to Canon on this end, just too many passable lenses for under $250 each.
3) Reliability, most are about the same, though the build quality of prosumer cameras like the 760D will give you some peace of mind. When traveling, it's even more important, and higher build quality of cameras like the 760D and D7200 really shines there.
4) What your friends/travel buddies have. Nothing is better than free "rentals". If all your friends are Nikon or all Canon, might as well join in just to borrow equipment.

In my opinion, the bodies of canon are great but the glasses of nikon are much better than canon(although canon glasses are cheaper). I've used both the cameras and I know what they can produce. The color and texture of the D5300 is absolutely gorgeous. Yes, if the camera doesn't feel right to you, you should not buy it. But again my verdict goes to D5300 as it is the best choice in the price range.

hey I think no... canon glasses are also good I did try to film with 760 and eos m3 I think it's sharp enough even without magic lantern. the color is not a problem since you might enhance, edit, grade and saturated it anyway. but as I used this cameras I learn that you should also focus in lighting to achieve a good image quality. for me I don't care about the Maximum ISO because it will just destroy you video if you are using a cheap camera

I'm also think that maximum ISO doesn't matter. You can do color correction but the thing I want to tell you is the imaging process of Nikon D5300 is better than the 760D. I've filmed with both and I know how gorgeous the picture looks in the nikon. And without the anti aliasing filter the sharpness of the picture is absolutely great. And yes, lighting is absolutely essential if you're trying to make a quality production.

I'm not telling that the 760D is not worth it but in my eyes I see the Nikon as the clear winner between the two.

 

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jnturja :

You can do color correction but the thing I want to tell you is the imaging process of Nikon D5300 is better than the 760D. I've filmed with both and I know how gorgeous the picture looks in the nikon. And without the anti aliasing filter the sharpness of the picture is absolutely great. And yes, lighting is absolutely essential if you're trying to make a quality production.

I'm not telling that the 760D is not worth it but in my eyes I see the Nikon as the clear winner between the two.

1) In camera processing is a joke. RAW or go home. Video on the other hand is pretty much dependent on bitrate rather than processing, and all camera have about the same bitrate
2) You can change the mixing options in the 760D quite easily, and best of all they work on video so you can increase the dynamic range of the video a bit (at the cost of gradation quality)
3) For $1000 budget you can't find lenses that actually make AA-less sensors work well, so no point in stating that as a plus

 

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Hi Guys, thank you very much for al your suggestions and opinions, I had take a good look to the Nikon D5300 and the Panasonic G7 after a lot of research and a few calls I have decided to go for the G7 with normal lenses + 45-150mm lenses.
The most people say that it is the greatest camera you can get for a price from about +/- 1000 euro's including lenses If you want it special for video.

 

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