Need help selecting a new pair of headphones

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Hello, I'm gonna be brief with this, so basically I am a big computer gamer but i also listen to music a lot and bring my headphones around with me to a lot of the places I go.  My current pair of headphones are the original sennheiser momentums (black) and i want a pair of headphones that stays at home connected to my computer while i bring my current pair around with me wherever i go and have come down to a few options:

[strike]The Sennheiser RS 165 Digital Wireless Headphone System ($219.95)

Pros:
Wireless
Stand is a charging dock (so I don't need to worry about the hassle of changing batteries or plugging the headphones in)
On board volume buttons
Will work well with my TV if need be (I have needed to use my headphones with my TV in rare occasion)

Cons:
Literally 0% portability, no phone usage if needed
Slightly above my allocated budget ($200), will need to set aside a little extra money
Leatherette earcups (The ear-cups deteriorate on any headphone I have ever had that has leatherette earcups)[/strike]

[strike]Sennheiser HD7 DJ Headphones ($199.95)

Pros:
Swiveling earcups (the ability to use my headphones with one ear is really nice)
Looks FRACKING AWESOME
Fold up for easy portability if needed

Cons:
Wired (I kind of want to get away from wired headphones because I have a tendency to get them caught on things)
Closed design

Sennheiser HD 598 Headphones ($150)

Pros:
Nice materials, very luxurious
Not too expensive, leftover money to get a different cable for it
There is A LOT of cushioning (this could be a good thing or a bad thing)
Open design

Cons:
Wired
Ends with a 1/4" plug instead of 3.5mm (need to spend extra money to get a different cable)
Velour cushions (any lint or dust really clings to velour cushions)
There is A LOT of cushioning (this could be a good thing or a bad thing)
Gaudy


Sennheiser HD 558 Headphones ($109.99)

Pros:
Least expensive out of all of my options, can use leftover money to get a different cable
Looks nice, very subtle
Open design

Cons:
Wired
A little bit plasticy looking
Ends with a 1/4" plug instead of 3.5mm (need to spend extra money to get a different cable)
Velour cushions (any lint or dust really clings to velour cushions)
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Audio-Technica ATX-M50x Headphones ($169)

Pros:
Not too expensive, have extra money left over
Look nice, very subtle
Leather earcups

Cons:
Wired
No on board controls

So someone please tell me the order of from best to worst sound quality wise and which one would probably be best for me

THANKS
 
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That is usually the case with headphones that have flashy designs.

I would also ditch the wireless headphones. You will have to deal with limited bandwidth (in turn lower fidelity), signal interference, low battery life (?), and a battery pack which will slowly lose its ability to hold a charge like any other portable device. They don't seem too comfortable either. I would stick to a wired connection and use things like cable clips/ties to help keep them out of the way.
in case you were not aware, the hd518, hd558 and hd598 all share the same exact driver. the difference in sound (hd518 having most bass and least soundstage with the hd598 being most neutral with largest soundstage) is due to the shape of the headphones. also, most headphones which end in 6.3mm (1/4") plugs have screw off caps. unless i'm mistaken http://cdn.head-fi.org/0/02/472x500px-02690849_stereo-jacks2.jpg is what your cable end would look like (do check up on it).

cant say i know much about the wireless options but hd598 is superior to the hd558.

if this is a set to stay at home, perhaps you want to check out other options like the ad500/700/900x (if you like a bass light sound that is advantageous in games). nice wide soundstage however poor low end bass (but decent mid bass). the akg and grado cans are similar.

or, if you have an amplifier (or can set aside money for one) the dt990 (or dt880 if you wanted a neutral sound signature) are great. the 990 has a wide soundstage, v-shaped (slightly recessed mids with more bass/treble) signature and is fairly bassy for being open. known for comfort. they DO need an amplifier or powerful soundcard to sound their best but for at-home cans are worth thinking about.
 

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1) I didn't know that about the hd 518, hd558, and hd598 headphones all having the same exact driver, thanks for informing me

2) I wish you were right about the plugs being screw caps but after looking it up i can't find anything saying that it is a screw off cap (also it wouldn't make sense for it to be screw off and have them also be packaged with a 1/4" to 3.5mm adapter as well)

3) I know it sounds a bit mean and stupid but i'd like to stick to sennheiser headphones, every experience i've had with headphones from other brands haven't really been the best

4)I do have an amp however it is a HUGE sound system (i mean massive, it was my dad's and it sits in my living room with it's own audio system)
 
2) you might be right about it being 1/4 only but with an adapter. according to http://www.head-fi.org/t/598506/why-do-the-sennheiser-hd558-hd598-ship-with-a-1-4-headphone-jack that makes sense. i do know other headphones come with a screw off design, why senns do not is silly. i've heard senn makes a hd598 cable for 3.5mm (1/8) available though. unfortunately seems you're not lucky and they dont have a screw off design like some other headphone designs do (such as the ones i own and use).

3) sennheisers tend to be a bit more laid back. this means that they do not sound as energetic or detailed as other cans are, however are more easy listening for long periods of time. both bass and treble are more subdued compared with some other cans, they are closer to neutral than anything. i suppose another word you could use for them is slow. none of that is bad, if you're into that kind of sound and they do make good headphones for someone who is not sure what they want. your call about what you want although i would highly suggest giving those cans a listen at a local store if possible the beyers really are nice vibrant energetic sounding headphones (though not sure if you actually prefer the laid back character of the senns...some certainly quite enjoy that).

4) sounds like a receiver to me (i have one sitting on my desk... you can see it in build photos in sig) which often have a 1/4 jack on the front. what i was talking about is a more manageable sized box like the fiio e09k, schiit magni, or similar sized box. a good internal soundcard like the soundblaster z would also work. mostly this would be if you picked a beyerdynamic can up since they are harder to drive.

perhaps the best bang/buck are the hd518's in terms of audio quality per dollar. i've heard of people getting them and just putting nicer pads on. what you get by jumping up to the 598 level is certainly a bit more soundstaging and more neutral sound given the design but also a bit more build quality and better pads. personally i think the 598's are a quite hideous color (opinion!) but thats just me.

not trying to push you one way or the other. just throwing some opinions and thoughts out there.
 

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Thanks for the advice

4) no, it is just a huge system, completely isolated, hooked up to a pair of speakers, and way too far away from my computer to be useful for computer audio (also the system is pretty old, i don't know how it would handle computer audio, though it does work with my phone)
 

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I am eliminating the HD 598s from the list since they have the same driver as the HD 558s (which are cheaper) and i don't care to much about wider soundstage and also because i would like to have the slight extra base from the HD 558s (even though i'm not really all that big on bass, i do like to have a little extra now and then)
 

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The 518s are more fun sounding than the other two. The 598 is the most detailed but also the most bass light. The 558s are an inbetween. As you go up you trade bass quantity for treble due to the design of the headphones becoming more open. Build quality is also slightly improved with better earpads/padding and trim. I agree with ssddx that they will give you the best run for your money. They usually go for ~$75, but newegg is having a sale where they are only $55 and I believe that is the lowest price they have ever gone for.

I actually just ordered a pair and saved 10% with the student discount It actually didn't apply at first but after a talk with customer support they made an exception. At that price they are a steal. I will play around with them once they arrive and see if I want to mod them to have a similar sound to the higher end models. Melodic electronic music is one genre which I listen to frequently and I find the 5xx series perfect for that. ssddx did a good job describing how they sound; laidback. If you like that, great, if you don't I would suggest to look into other headphone brands. I like to have multiple headphones with different sound signatures and change them out depending on the genre I am listening to. Some headphones are quite versatile for a variety of genres, others might shine at one or two specific ones.

Headphones made by the same company can vary GREATLY from each other. Completely different design and sound signatures . Don't let impressions from a few headphones be a deciding factor.

I had the chance to test the 518/558/598 at the magnolia section of my local Best Buy. Guitar center did not have them on display but did have a few Audio Technicas and Beyers. This varies from store to store though, it's best to call them before you make the trip.
 

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That is usually the case with headphones that have flashy designs.

I would also ditch the wireless headphones. You will have to deal with limited bandwidth (in turn lower fidelity), signal interference, low battery life (?), and a battery pack which will slowly lose its ability to hold a charge like any other portable device. They don't seem too comfortable either. I would stick to a wired connection and use things like cable clips/ties to help keep them out of the way.
 
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just noticed the original post had everything [strike]stricken out[/strike] and the m50x added.

i own the m50 myself (precursor to the m50x) and while its a nice set of cans... its not worth the high price ($150+) they were trying to get for them. for around $100 (you can get open box m50's for this) they are great. one thing to note however is that they have an incredibly small soundstage so everything will sound very close and up front so are not ideal for gaming. they are pretty warm sounding yet retain some clear highs and decent lows with a v-shaped sound profile. personally i enjoy these headphones, but i am pointing out some of their flaws.