Build a desktop PC with 980M ?

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how about an ITX build with an asus gtx960 mini?
http/www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX960MOC2GD5/

 

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Thanks for the answer.

But not nearly as powerful as the 980M and still a big form factor.

 

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i you want a 980m just buy a gaming laptop its much easier then trying to get a 980m on a desktop

 

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ninja85a :

i you want a 980m just buy a gaming laptop its much easier then trying to get a 980m on a desktop

I wish I could downvote this comment

 

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ninja85a :

i you want a 980m just buy a gaming laptop its much easier then trying to get a 980m on a desktop

I wish I could downvote this comment

why would you want to downvote my comment i just said if you want to buy a 980m just buy a laptop its simple

 

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if you want small form factor gaming, get a laptop with 980m, or itx build with better graphics card than the 980m.
No point in having tiny little card inside case, if a larger and better performing card will fit in the same exact space.

 

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TNT27 :

if you want small form factor gaming, get a laptop with 980m, or itx build with better graphics card than the 980m.
No point in having tiny little card inside case, if a larger and better performing card will fit in the same exact space.

Does anybody read the OP/question?

I DON'T WANT A LAPTOP, I want a desktop PC.
I DON'T WANT the usual form factor, not even an itx build which is still fat, I want to build a Desktop PC with mobile components as much as I can to reduce it to a Mac Pro form factor with performance.

 

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TNT27 :

if you want small form factor gaming, get a laptop with 980m, or itx build with better graphics card than the 980m.
No point in having tiny little card inside case, if a larger and better performing card will fit in the same exact space.

Does anybody read the OP/question?

I DON'T WANT A LAPTOP, I want a desktop PC.
I DON'T WANT the usual form factor, not even an itx build which is still fat, I want to build a Desktop PC with mobile components as much as I can to reduce it to a Mac Pro form factor with performance.

There is currently no way to get desktop performance into form factor of a Mac Pro, otherwise That Mac Pro would have desktop grade performance.

 

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lol if mini-itx is too fat all there is left are all-in-ones like this one?
http/www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2469101,00.asp
good luck finding a powerfull one though, size puts limits to cooling which limits performance....

 

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TNT27 :

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TNT27 :

if you want small form factor gaming, get a laptop with 980m, or itx build with better graphics card than the 980m.
No point in having tiny little card inside case, if a larger and better performing card will fit in the same exact space.

Does anybody read the OP/question?

I DON'T WANT A LAPTOP, I want a desktop PC.
I DON'T WANT the usual form factor, not even an itx build which is still fat, I want to build a Desktop PC with mobile components as much as I can to reduce it to a Mac Pro form factor with performance.

There is currently no way to get desktop performance into form factor of a Mac Pro, otherwise That Mac Pro would have desktop grade performance.

Well my point is that with high-end mobile Broadwell, regular DDR3 and now cards like the 980M, mobile form-factor almost reaches desktop performance.
Not ultra high-end Titan-SLI Xeon performance, but regular high-end desktop performance equipped with a broadwell cpu and 960/780/290x card performance.

Unless I'm mistaken about how mobile voltage/TDP format impacts performance on a same configuration as a desktop PC?

 

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Kari :

lol if mini-itx is too fat all there is left are all-in-ones like this one?
http/www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2469101,00.asp
good luck finding a powerfull one though, size puts limits to cooling which limits performance....

I'm not searching for an All-in-one either as I want to be able to travel with a compact case and plug-it into any screen.

Again since the 980M fits into a laptop and is still able to be cooled by a limited-size fan, and there even are 980M SLi (unless that's marketing overkill), why would it be a problem.

BUT I'm not searching for down to a laptop size PC or even mini-ITX, just something in between the Mac Pro and an ITX.

UNLESS there's a way to use a mini-ITX form-factor with the full power of a 980M (which again has a reduced power consumption and heat emission) ?

 

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Have you actually seen a laptop with a 980m? the chip still has a tdp of 125W or there abouts. They are not exactly small by laptop standards... The desktop 980 is rated at 165W and it has more shaders (1.5k vs 2k).
http/www.geeks3d.com/20141008/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980m-and-gtx-970m-for-gaming-notebooks/

But frankly what you are asking for doesnt exist.

 

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Kari :

Have you actually seen a laptop with a 980m? the chip still has a tdp of 125W or there abouts. They are not exactly small by laptop standards... The desktop 980 is rated at 165W and it has more shaders (1.5k vs 2k).
http/www.geeks3d.com/20141008/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980m-and-gtx-970m-for-gaming-notebooks/

But frankly what you are asking for doesnt exist.

Yes I've seen, and there are MANY in shops or internet, or is it something that doesn't exist either?
It has a tdp 100w which is pretty below that of the 980, and again not the same form-factor or heat.

If I could put a 980 in a very small box form factor, below the size of an ITX, maybe I would but it's not possible and frankly I don't want a bulky card I find disgustingly fat, when you have more and more recurrent miracles like the 980M.

 

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Kari :

Have you actually seen a laptop with a 980m? the chip still has a tdp of 125W or there abouts. They are not exactly small by laptop standards... The desktop 980 is rated at 165W and it has more shaders (1.5k vs 2k).
http/www.geeks3d.com/20141008/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980m-and-gtx-970m-for-gaming-notebooks/

But frankly what you are asking for doesnt exist.

Yes I've seen, and there are MANY in shops or internet, or is it something that doesn't exist either?
It has a tdp 100w which is pretty below that of the 980, and again not the same form-factor or heat.

If I could put a 980 in a very small box form factor, below the size of an ITX, maybe I would but it's not possible and frankly I don't want a bulky card I find disgustingly fat, when you have more and more recurrent miracles like the 980M.

They have some itx cases that are like the size of a console, and will also fit full fledged desktop gpus in them.

Nothing as small as mac pro laptop though.

 

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Yes I've seen, and there are MANY in shops or internet, or is it something that doesn't exist either?

I was merely pointing out their size, not questioning their existence.

 

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I think you're missing one crucial step here. where are you actually going to purchase a 980m? Even if you do find a seller. The price is going to be extremely over priced for the performance you're getting. You'd more than likely be able to buy a desktop 980 which would laugh in the face of the 980m.

 

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Bro, they make desktops with 980m chips. Here's one (click image to see original website):



As others have said, you can just make a mITX computer, which is about the same size as a console, but it fits the fastest desktop GPUs made. Here's an upcoming case that will do that (again, click for link):



Here is a currently available version of a case similar to the one I just linked above. Not as pretty, but it's small and fits everything that large desktops use (clickable):



Here is that case next to an Xbox 360 (no link this time):

And here is a link to PC Part Picker, which show a majorly decked out PC in a time little case: http/pcpartpicker.com/b/FRzMnQ

 

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Deehomes :

I think you're missing one crucial step here. where are you actually going to purchase a 980m? Even if you do find a seller. The price is going to be extremely over priced for the performance you're getting. You'd more than likely be able to buy a desktop 980 which would laugh in the face of the 980m.

And you're missing one crucial step in my OP

So my question (theoretical if, as I understood, they're not available on the consumer market yet)

Click to expand...

And there's a very good reason: the 980M is not far from the performance of the 980, almost on par 970, except in a WAY smaller form factor, way lower footprints in power consumption and heat emission.

I can't bear how the Nvidia/AMD are still releasing disgustingly fat, power-hungry, over-heating GPUs in 2015, it's the only thing holding back the whole computing market miniaturization process that is still finished (then we'll switch to the 3D manufacturing, organic components, quantum manufacturing etc.. races)

 

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Eggz :

Bro, they make desktops with 980m chips. Here's one (click image to see original website):

Yes, that's why I'm asking this question because unlike they're under-producing chips, or they're all used by pc manufacturers, they'll eventually be 980M package available on the market, I hope they'd be stupid not to.

Eggz :

As others have said, you can just make a mITX computer, which is about the same size as a console, but it fits the fastest desktop GPUs made. Here's an upcoming case that will do that (again, click for link):

Here is a currently available version of a case similar to the one I just linked above. Not as pretty, but it's small and fits everything that large desktops use (clickable):

Here is that case next to an Xbox 360 (no link this time):

And here is a link to PC Part Picker, which show a majorly decked out PC in a time little case: http/pcpartpicker.com/b/FRzMnQ

Thanks! That's exactly what I wanted to know. Other have also pointed above to ITX (which I didn't know about and are way too fat) but a miTX the size of a console would be the solution.

The thing is, you probably can't put a 980 in such a small form factor because of power consumption and cooling, let alone an SLI, but you can fit a 980M or even SLI in a very tiny form-factor if you get rid of HDD/BDrive.

Know I know I can, and I'm studying the option and potential price of an eventual 980M pc part release to make a small custom, or if I can still go with 980 in a very tiny form-factor although I hate desktop sized cards.

 

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