Notebooks with the new AMD FX-7500 or FX-7600P processor?

There are currently no laptops with the FX-7500 or 7600P for sale in the US. Several models are slated for release later in the year from several different manufacturers but as of yet I don't see any firm release dates from anybody.

So far with the fx7600p Processor we have.

MSI GX60 and GX70 models, I've seen them listed on Thai and German websites.

There's also the ASUS X550ZE

So far none of these are for sale in .us afaict and none of them has faster the 1600Mhz memory, which is crying shame as that is what really gives the 7600p an edge over the other Kaveri apus.

Ideally you also want a discrete r7 graphics card in it too. Pushes framerates from ~40fps to ~60

Decided to track thread, thought I would pop in and share my opinion.

In my opinion, I cannot see ANY reason to put a Kaveri APU in the same notebook as a mid-high-end GPU. It cannot run in dual graphics with it, and there are much better purely-CPU processors out there for the price. If MSI is going to further bottleneck the APU by using slow RAM, I can see no compelling reason to choose that laptop over one with an I5/I7 in it.

Main selling points I would be looking for in a laptop with the fx-7600p:
- fast RAM: at least 1866 speed, preferably faster. At least 4GB+ in volume, obviously.
- No discrete GPU (assuming a correspondingly low price... I mean, I'm not going to refuse a discrete GPU if it comes cheap) - dual graphics is great and all, but it doesn't offer as compelling a price/performance or power efficiency story as just the APU alone.
- 5400 RPM 1TB+ HDD OR a 128GB+ SSD. Preferably both, but as I'm unfamiliar with the realistic pricing of laptops, I'm not too sure that it's reasonable.
- 720p or 1080p screen, personally it doesn't matter much to me (a lower-resolution screen just means a higher framerate to me, and in most recent games the switch from 1080p to 720p brings frame rate from playable to smooth at low settings) - what DOES matter is that it isn't overly reflective, has good picture quality and has a good viewing angle
- standard laptop goodies. A keyboard (duh), a nice high-capacity battery, bluetooth, a radio for wireless internet connectivity, a (hopefully high-ish detail) webcam, USB 3.0, etc.
- sub-$700 price (HP's $1000+ business laptops with lower-end APUs are scaring me).

Do those features seem reasonable for that price? It's around what I have available for the laptop purchase I'm looking to make, and I'm hoping I can get an fx-7600p-based laptop with those features for around that amount.

I have no idea about the pricing of laptops.

For me a 720p screen isn't enough I want 1080p (no more, no less, no touch).

Likewise for me a dGPU isn't essential, but if it has one it wants to be an R7, so it can crossfire with the onboard. The MSI models so far have an R9 dGPU, my understanding is that this will be used instead of the onboard graphics, and if so then why bother with an apu.

Just to be clear there is a slide somewhere of AMD saying that with an R7 dGPU the FX-7600p's jumps from ~40 to ~60 fps in some game (BF4 maybe). There's also an srticle out there where someone tests a kaveri apu with 1600 1866 and 2133 Mhz memory and 1866 is a must, 2133 is the cream, but may not give a performance increase in line with the price increase.

You can checkout the following link from AMD from time to time. It list many laptops with AMD APUs. I am not sure it is a complete list, but there are 618 results at this time.

http/shop.amd.com/en-us/computers/notebook

At the moment there are no Kaveri generation APU listed in the filters. I would guess that maybe you will see a few Kaveri generation laptops for sale in December.

I got an email this morning from AMD announcing an HP laptop with the 7500 in it at best buys.

http/www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-touchsmart-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-amd-fx-series-6gb-memory-750gb-hard-drive-natural-silver/8825037.p;jsessionid=81EBC4536A27A4538C26B793AFAD69F1.bbolsp-app02-124?id=1219371332671&skuId=8825037&st=8825037&cp=1&lp=1&ref=199&loc=kmZjHBYatgE&acampID=1&siteID=kmZjHBYatgE-oLCAPs9oz8_aONU99rVtgw

That BestBuy one is a terrible deal. The screen is 1366 x 768....awful resolution. Hard to believe the FX 7600 and 7500 were unveiled in June and here we are almost in November, and there are ZERO affordable and competitive (or any at all) builds available in the US

Checked my promotions tab in g-mail... AMD is calling the fx-7500 their "highest-performing APU". I hope the marketing made a mistake, because I was under the impression the fx-7600p was the highest-end one. :~(

And then I read on and the horror revealed itself: "Introducing mobile systems with AMD's highest performing APUs, exclusively at Best Buy". Please let that be a completely incompetent marketing team making false statements... I have mocked Best Buy for the longest time, I would really rather not buy from them - I hope that by "exclusively at Best Buy" they mean "or you can buy it from newegg / amazon".

Personally I'm not too picky about the resolution - I'm sure it's one of those "once you've used it you can't go back" kind of things, and I am perfectly happy to maintain my happiness at a lower price point.

Although I would rather have a 1080p non-touch screen than a 720p touch screen. Doesn't AMD Gesture Control basically defeat the purpose of touch screens anyway? All I want is a 1080p screen instead of touch, an fx-7600p, and confirmation that the RAM can run at least 1866 speed. The rest of the features of the Best Buy one I am actually okay with for that price. Hopefully a laptop with those specs is released before black friday, and I can get it for the price of this one then :~)

I was using a 1600 x1200 screen in 1990.

My Samsung nc10 is 1024 x 600 and after getting that I decided that I'd never buy another machine with fewer than 1000 vertical pixels.

I too have no real desire for a touch screen.

From reading AMDs releases it would seem that an FX-7600p paired with a discrete r7 chip with 2133Mhz memory should run most games at 40 fps or more on good settings. A nice simple 1080p laptop in as small a form factor as heat allows with this setup (and ssds) is all I want.

Sadly Carrizo will probably be out before anyone does it.

I'm sure it's one of those "once you've used it you can't go back" kind of things, and I am perfectly happy to maintain my happiness at a lower price point.

Best Buy is currently trying to act like an OEM as its marketing strategy but rather than sell PCs with the Best Buy brand name slapped on it, they are going after recognizable PC vendors to create specifications that Best Buy wants, most likely through their conjoint analysis on their typical customers, and using the word "exclusive." That's why you see models under the Best Buy Blue Label "brand" but with HP, Dell, or Asus name still on the laptops. This is similar to how Barnes and Noble is using Samsung to create the Nook HD tablets. This does not mean that AMD FX-7500 is only exclusive to Best Buy, but rather the particular model that Best Buy asked its PC vendors to create is exclusive.

Most likely the hard part about finding AMD FX-7500 processor-based laptops is due to the fact that AMD has to sell chips to PC vendors. In the industry, a lot of vendors know that Intel takes 95%+ share of the PC market, and vendors are going after volume sales since margins on PCs typically run into 5%. Also, AMD sells its chips technically through a distributor such as Avnet or Arrow. It's really up to companies like Dell, HP, or others to consider how many AMD chips to buy versus Intel chips.

(My information btw is due to the fact I used to work in supply chain management at one of these companies above.)

im using a dell inspiron n5010 with first gen i7 and 5650m that I got for free and total upgrade cost was $600 after I basicly upgraded every part in the laptop. ssd, wifi, cpu, mobo(for the 5650m gpu), ram, heatsink, battery... long story short it has 1366 by 768 screen and at 15 inches I have to say its not bad. that best buy one seems to be decent deal. $50 more than my laptop totally cost for the trade off of a little battery life, and storage speed, and wifi speed. as a first model release from amd for this apu im very impressed at the price point they slated this laptop at.

the news of best buy having control of amd fx line apu laptops is genuinely discouraging... while best buy does have good prices often on laptops, an exclusive laptop to one vendor will drive prices up and quality down. that is the bad news here.

do I expect to see a 1080p fx 7600p laptop with 1866 ram this year by black Friday? yes. ffs ddr4 is out already 1600 MHz is now the bottom line for ram speed and if you are getting any manufactures to put even a single upgrade into their laptops then there will be options. hp and dell and asus will see that ram speed increases are cheap way to help market the laptop as faster and will directly appeal to the market of ppl that are reading this forum.

Best Buy doesn't have exclusivity to the AMD FX. Rather, the Best Buy model that Best Buy is selling is exclusive to Best Buy. Also, it's really the demand coming from HP, Dell, Asus, Acer, etc, that AMD lacks when compared to Intel from a marketing and supply chain management perspective. If you think about it, the fact that Best Buy is the only store offering an HP laptop with the AMD FX chip is a good thing, because Best Buy recognizes that there should be a market for it and asked HP to create a model for them. Personally, I hope for other PC vendors to seriously consider the AMD FX chip in their own line up.

That said, one thing I at least don't know is if the PC vendors are currently testing the AMD FX chips and working with AMD to get an firmware updates or fixes that would work in their systems. This process can take a while -- back and forth between AMD engineers and the PC vendors' engineers. They have to run temperature testing, run linpack algorithms, etc.

I bought this a couple of weeks ago and have been loving it. It has the FX-7500 2.1GHz (3.2GHz with turbo boost), and it's decently fast, comparable to an upper-midrange Core i7, but for quite a bit less money.

http/www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-touchsmart-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-amd-fx-series-6gb-memory-750gb-hard-drive-natural-silver/8825037.p?id=1219371332671&skuId=8825037&st=hp%20envy&cp=1&lp=3

Whoops. Replied in wrong thread...

you might not actually want 1080p with a kaveri. it just can't handle the latest games so well at that resolution.
I think I would actually want a smaller 720p laptop with that processor. and better ram, kaveri needs the fastest ram you can get...