17Baby can you explain what it is that makes HP an unreliable brand, please? They also offer an Acer 15.6" 4GB/500G notebook for 399.99. Would that be a good choice or is it still too low a price for a good laptop? There aren't any specs given in the flyer so would need to go into the store to actually look at the box (I find the clerks there don't really have any more understanding about what the electronics products and would just be reading the box like me). I think it actually may be their regular price, which means it would qualify for my 20% seniors discount plus my points dump reducing it down another $170 from there.