FRAPS - Recording makes my game lag spike?

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I think you have the so-called microstuttering. Why does this happen? Well perhaps minecraft, when you fly around, has to load new stuff , many small new stuff and the 2TB hard disk, (which is made to give huge data but not many small data fast) has issues delivering in real time especially when you are also writing on that disk (recording with fraps)

SSDs are way faster and you should definitely get one ssd of 128gb, install your O/S there, never good idea to have O/S on huge disks, and play your minecraft from there and save on the 2Tb hard disk.

 

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But why is this NOW happening? This has never happened in the past.

 

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beetlejuicegr summed up one of the biggest issues with fraps. Its large files require a rather clean drive(lower fragmentation) so the heads do not have to jump around too much. Add a game loading to the mix and the drive head may not always be in a good place to record.

I HIGHLY recommend you try ShadowPlay instead. It uses hardware compression in your video card to reduce cpu stress and file size that also can add to frame drops on fraps.
http/www.geforce.com/geforce-experience/shadowplay

While you can record at different frame rates or resolutions, for best performance/look you should run stereo sound(surround is not yet supported last I checked) and at most 1920 x 1080 for the time being. Running Vsync or a frame rate limiter to keep the same frame rate as you are recording at is a good idea as well.

 

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Alright, I've wanted to try shadowplay after getting the new GPU. Does HDDs need drivers?

 

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I just tested Minecraft recording with Bandicam, not as much lag spikes as fraps. So I guess it's not HDD problem?

 

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Is it possible to make bandican cut files after a certain amount of file size?

 

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I do not use bandicam, but the NTFS file system used on most Windows system should not have issues with larger files.

Hard drives do not require a driver, but the controller they connect to does. Normally the default ones are ok, but you can try the ones from the system maker or motherboard makers website. Things like caching may hide some of the performance loss from a mechanical hard drive.

I was actually test recording FRAPS videos over a network and it worked out fairly good. It did still drop some frames from time to time however.

I have found ShadowPlay to be quite good, but not quite as good as some others because of the compression, but most online services will do so much harm to the file that this difference should not be an issue.

 

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Would recording to a USB flash drive stop the lag spike issue?

 

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This depends on the drive as well as its overall speed.

Some USB flash drives are just slow.

Also note that flash drives have a limited number of times they can be written so keep that in mind.

 

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nukemaster :

This depends on the drive as well as its overall speed.

Some USB flash drives are just slow.

Also note that flash drives have a limited number of times they can be written so keep that in mind.

Which ones do you recommend?

 

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I do not tend to use flash drives too much, so I just have cheap A-DATA ones.

What is your resolution and frame rate, I will see if any I can do some test recordings(fraps). I will be using a game that is very non demanding to avoid the game being the bottleneck.

Did you get to try ShadowPlay? 1.45 gigabytes(vs over 12 for fraps) gave me a 5 minute 1920 x 1080(It supports higher, but seems to not do too good at non 16:9 ratios) video.

 

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nukemaster :

I do not tend to use flash drives too much, so I just have cheap A-DATA ones.

What is your resolution and frame rate, I will see if any I can do some test recordings(fraps). I will be using a game that is very non demanding to avoid the game being the bottleneck.

Did you get to try ShadowPlay? 1.45 gigabytes(vs over 12 for fraps) gave me a 5 minute 1920 x 1080(It supports higher, but seems to not do too good at non 16:9 ratios) video.

Yeah, shadowplay works really well with Counter strike GO. But doesn't quite support minecraft without using desktop recording. But it still lag spikes. Is the Corsair USB 3.0 Flash Voyager GS 64 GB good? Or SanDisk Extreme 64 GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive

 

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Actually, which is more important when saving recorded videos to the flash drive, write speed, or read speed?

 

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I record Minecraft in 1280x720 with over 400 FPS

Shaders: 170

 

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Write speeds, but latency plays a role too.

Recording a video at 400 fps will lag spike no matter what because most software will not record or playback that fast(I do not even think any consumer monitor can keep up with that). In general the only time for actual frame rates like that is high speed recordings that then get played back at 30/60 fps and show you a slow motion video.

Try to cap the FPS at 60 and see if it is better.

 

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nukemaster :

Write speeds, but latency plays a role too.

Recording a video at 400 fps will lag spike no matter what because most software will not record or playback that fast(I do not even think any consumer monitor can keep up with that). In general the only time for actual frame rates like that is high speed recordings that then get played back at 30/60 fps and show you a slow motion video.

Try to cap the FPS at 60 and see if it is better.

I cap it at 120 and it dips to 95 then makes it's way back up. Bandicam doesn't do this, instead, it just gives me lower frames.

 

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How big are bandicam files? I wonder if it is a storage issue or a program/other performance issue.

General recordings are 30 or 60 fps. The problem with rendering more than the number you are trying to record is some will simply be dropped and can make the recording look unsmooth.

I did a Bioshock Infinite recording with the frame rate in the 90-120ish range and it is not that smooth because the video is only taking some of the frames.

 

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nukemaster :

How big are bandicam files? I wonder if it is a storage issue or a program/other performance issue.

General recordings are 30 or 60 fps. The problem with rendering more than the number you are trying to record is some will simply be dropped and can make the recording look unsmooth.

I did a Bioshock Infinite recording with the frame rate in the 90-120ish range and it is not that smooth because the video is only taking some of the frames.

This all happened after installing new mobo, CPU. HDD is the same.

 

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Bandicam is like 4 min/300 mb I believe

 

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