Speaker power vs Amp Power

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Hi,

This may sound like a stupid question, but - If I bought, for example, a set of speakers that used 250W each speaker, what wattage amp should I get?

Thanks
 
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There is a debate whether bi-wiring improves the quality of sound. In my experience it does not and most people would agree with that.
Now bi-amping is a different story which can improve sound but that would require another amp, disabling the speaker's passive crossover and using an active crossover to send the appropriate frequencies to the correct driver.

Happy listening, the Prisoner...

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The power rating for speakers is the maximum power they can handle before damage to them is likely to occur. The power rating for amplifiers is the maximum power that it can deliver. However, you need to be careful when matching speaker/amplifier power ratings since different manufacturers rate their power differently. This is due to the fact that power can be expressed in terms of RMS, Peak or Peak-to-Peak. It is important because each is calculated differently, the following are conversion formulas:

RMS = Peak X 0.707 or Peak-to-Peak X 0.3535

Peak = RMS X 1.414 or Peak-to-Peak X 0.5

Peak-to-Peak = RMS X 2.828 or Peak X 2.0

Make sure that when matching up your ratings that they are on equal terms, if the speakers are rated in RMS and the Amplifier is rated in Peak, then convert the speaker RMS rating to Peak or the amplifiers Peak rating to RMS, then you can see how they fit on an equivalent scale.

Another thing to keep in mind is whether the power rating is specified as "MAX" or "Continuous". "MAX" means that it can only provide/allow that level for a short period of time, while "Continuous" means just that, the the amp can deliver of the speaker can consume that much power continuously.

The speakers will only draw as much power as the source (amplifier) provides, and the amplifier delivers lower power at lower volume levels and maximum power when it is cranked all the way up.

If your speakers are rated for 250W per channel/speaker, then make sure the amplifier you select only provides a maximum of 250W per channel/speaker to avoid potential damage. I recommend getting a slightly lower amplifier rating vs the speakers it will be driving just to play it safe.

Another consideration is if you have a bass/treble control or an equalizer that allows you to adjust various frequency delivery. The power ratings of the amplifier are based in "normal" mid-level settings/ranges. If you change the bass/treble or equalizer settings/levels, you can throw the ratings out the window.

Finally, a good set of speakers will usually allow a cheap amplifier sound good, and a better amplifier to sound great. However, even the best amplifier will sound like crap if it is attached to a cheap set of speakers. Just something to keep in mind.

Hope this helps, and I'm in the USA, so can't be of much assistance helping on specific suggestions since I'm assuming you are in the UK. Cheers!
 
£200.00 for both amp and speakers?

If a speaker is lets says rated 15 watts to 100 watts a 50 watts amp is probably ok. Generally, more amp than is needed. What you want is an amp that has good peak power(also called dynamic headroom). Most of the time the amp isn't putting out a lot of power but certain peaks can hit 200 watts or a lot more depending. It depends on what you are listening to, what volume and etc.

For £200.00 unless you buy used, it is going to be very hard to find an amp and floorstanders for that budget...

Happy listening, the Prisoner...
 

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Yeah I realise £200 is pretty low for what I'm after but I'm not really after a great setup, just the best I can get for the price range! I'm going to the shop today to test them both out anyway.
 

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Thanks for your reply! I was hoping to get a second opinion on this possible setup. Will the Cambridge Topaz AM1 power the Mission m33i OK?

http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/products/topaz-am1-integrated-amplifier

http://www.richersounds.com/product/floorstanders/mission/m33i/miss-m33i-blk
 

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I see no reason your two choices wouldn't work together. And as "thee_prisoner" mentioned, it is definitely a good idea to listen to them matched up together before buying (if possible). The only drawback to the speakers that I saw was they only produce 48 Hz to 20,000 Hz, whereas the amp will go as low as 10 Hz. The "normal" low-end for human hearing is 20 Hz and the lower frequencies are what deliver the bass. Since I love my bass, my suggestion would be to see if you can find a pair of speakers with a lower frequency response.

Regardless, if you have the chance to listen to them and are satisfied with your choices, then go for it. After all, it is "your" decision to make and most definitely "your" money you will be spending!
 

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Aye, and it's certainly more than loud enough for my room!

Any idea if there'll be much of an improvement in quality if I Bi-wire them?
 
There is a debate whether bi-wiring improves the quality of sound. In my experience it does not and most people would agree with that.
Now bi-amping is a different story which can improve sound but that would require another amp, disabling the speaker's passive crossover and using an active crossover to send the appropriate frequencies to the correct driver.

Happy listening, the Prisoner...
 
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OK, thanks. Don't think I'll bother then!

One more thing - The speakers both have a HF and LF at the back. I just plugged both + and - into the HF slots. Is this correct? I am a noob at this!
 
As long as the jumper bar is attached. The bar that connects to LF/HF positive and LF/HF negative. Also, I was thinking if you want to bi-wire the speakers , and see if you hear a difference. Just use two sets of speaker wire(I recommend at least 18 gauge(lamp wire)) and remove the jumper bar.