Please help me choose an i7 laptop

nhcotrim

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Hi Guys,
I've doing some hard thinking and came up with a few laptops that I think will fit what a I need. Please feel free to suggest other options if you think it's relevant. I'm in the UK, and some models are not available here.

Some background:
1. I'm an amateur photographer and hardly ever play any games, so the heaviest tasks will be Photoshop and Lightroom.
2. Because of the photos, it needs a decent display - ideally full HD, but needs to be good, nice colors and bright!
3. I also want to be able to connect to a home theatre (Full HD TV and soundbar) so WiDi and bluetooth are terribly welcome.
4. Size is not really an issue, but the smallest/lightest the better - not looking for ultrabook, 15" should do fine.
5. Cost: the cheaper the better, I still need to buy a NAS and hard drives. The longer it takes, the longer I'll go without proper backup. Preferably under £800, but could stretch to £900 for amazing deals.
6. Ideally, it would be my sole computer and should last at least 3 years.

The laptops I found have many things in common: The first three all have i7-3632QM, 8gb, dedicated video card with 2gb and Blu ray combo drive. They also have illuminated keyboard, and, as far as I could check, Intel wireless, so WiDi.

Dell Inspiron 15R SE
£623 (after coupons)
AMD Radeon HD 7730M
1TB HDD - I think it's got a mSATA SSD 32gb as well, not sure.

Dell XPS 15
£800 at Dell outlet
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M
1TB+32gb mSATA SSD

Lenovo Y500
£870
16gb RAM (the extra £70 over the XPS would be the memory)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M
1TB+16gb mSATA SSD (vs 32gb of the XPS)

And, now, the one I really don't know about:

MSI CX61 Haswell (CX61 2OD on MSI's website)
£750
i7-4702MQ
16gb RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M
1TB - don't know if it even has an active mSATA slot - if it does, great, I can add a 128mSATA in the future and use that as system drive.

The best on paper is clearly the MSI, with i7 Haswell, that 740M graphics board and the extra memory And not so much more than the Inspiron. But is it reliable? I could not find any recent reviews of the CX61... And what about build? The XPS and Y500 are aluminium, and the Inspiron is aluminium and plastic. From the reviews I found, it's plastic. No illuminated keyboard (not a deal breaker, but nice to have). No idea about the wireless board or WiDi. One "best i7 laptops" google search mentioned that the Full HD display of the MSI CX61 is very good (they were comparing it to the XPS and one ASUS, if not mistaken), but I don't know if they've changed for the new version.

So, can you help me decide?

Will there be noticeable difference between them? Is not, should I go for the Inspiron and save a not inconsiderable amount of cash? Or will the MSI last me longer - both as performance and literally?

Thanks!
 

nhcotrim

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Or should I wait a bot more for the Haswell laptops to appear, hoping that they will drive the Ivy bridges down (or have a similar price now)?

I can't wait too long, my current old laptop has some display problems - even on external displays, I'm actually posting about right now - that are driving me crazy. I can't even read a pdf properly!
 

ust4ever

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MSI are an amazing company... So don't be scared because you don't really see them out there that much.
If you want a good idea, use Google to find reviews for these Laptops, the MSI would be my first choice, mainly because of the fact it has a lot of RAM, the best CPU and GPU, which will really help for photo editing.
But it's up to you :)

Remeber, Google is your friend :)
 
With $1370 US to spend (900GBP) I think Im gonna come up short

Clevo P151SM1
http://www.lpc-digital.com/sager-np8230.html
15.6” Full HD 16:9 LED-Backlit MATTE 95% NTSC Color Gamut Ultra Bright
NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 770M 3GB GDDR5 Memory
4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz)
Genuine Microsoft Windows® 8 64-Bit Edition
16GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 2 X 8GB
750GB Seagate Momentus XT ST750LX003 7200RPM 32MB SATA 6.0Gb/s 8GB SSD
6X Blu-ray Reader/8X DVD±R/2.4X +DL Super-Multi Drive
Integrated 802.11 b/g/n wireless LAN + Bluetooth

That's $1544 .... so It looks like I broke ya budget by about $175 .... but the MAX discount should get ya back about $100

To find a distributor in your neck of the woods,
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/91510-clevo-guide-v2-0-faq-reseller-info.html

CLEVO is a large Taiwanese computer company specializing in laptops. While the Clevo brand name is perhaps not widely known, their products are re-branded and sold by known boutique brand OEMs (Original Equipment Manufacturers)… notably Sager, VoodooPC, Falcon Northwest, Eurocom, etc. They are also considered (by whoever knows about notebooks) to design and manufacturer the best of the best notebooks in terms of superior build quality and innovative designs.

This one Clevo W350ST is $1,344 (before discounts)
http://www.lpc-digital.com/sager-np7352.html
15.6” Full HD 16:9 LED-Backlit MATTE 95% NTSC Color Gamut Ultra Bright
NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 765M 3GB GDDR5 Memory
4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz)
Genuine Microsoft Windows® 8 64-Bit Edition
16GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 2 X 8GB
750GB Seagate Momentus XT ST750LX003 7200RPM 32MB SATA 6.0Gb/s 8GB SSD
6X Blu-ray Reader/8X DVD±R/2.4X +DL Super-Multi Drive
Integrated 802.11 b/g/n wireless LAN + Bluetooth
 

nhcotrim

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@USAFret
I posted a while ago that I wanted a media/home server and a laptop. Any combinations of NAS, desktop and laptop allowed, as long as I don't have to work beside the TV and have an always-on media/download/storage server.

Even though I want to build a desktop, I think the cheapest solution will be a powerful laptop, connected to an external screen, keyboard, mouse and Wacom tablet, and a NAS (or very cheap - i3 - and small computer) for the "server".

Amy suggestions?


@ust4server
Thanks, I know that MSI makes great parts, but when I googled MSI CX61, I only found so so reviews. Some said it was good, but not so much. Others said it was great bang for the buck, but with another £XXX there were better options. They all mention the cheap build - but cheap as plastic or cheap as in creaking and falling apart?

 

nhcotrim

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@JackNaylorPE

Thanks, will definitely check into it. But unfortunately the conversion rates are not so straightforward... They tend to be more expensive here, so I think I'm out of luck...
 

USAFRet

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Since this doesn't appear to need mobility of a laptop, a desktop build would seem to be stronger, cheaper, and more upgradeable for the future.

Tied to the TV and maybe an external monitor, and serving as a house NAS/media server negates the use case for a laptop.
Looking for equivalent performance, a desktop will be cheaper than a laptop. And far easier to upgrade in a year or two.
 

nhcotrim

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@USAFret

But I'll still need a laptop when I'm not home. I have a TF300 android tablet, with the keyboard, so it is nice and easy to type, but doesn't really cut it for work on the road - it's great for most things, but not when I need to work. If my current laptop was working fine, then it would be a non-issue. Sadly it's not...


@ust4ever

I did check that and some similar ones. it was in one of them that I saw the reference to the CX61, otherwise I would probably give it a miss...


@JackNaylorPE

There is only one company in the UK, but from what I've seen they only sell pre-made ones or with some easy changes (memory and storage). And the price for their cheapest Haswell is almost £1200.